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October 22, 2012

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Rain Trueax

We have an advantage plan also that is with the same clinic where we have gone since we moved to the farm. So far so good with it. Our prescription costs are quite low but it's one of those things you never know about the future.

I will be sooooooooo glad when this election is over. We voted also as Oregon does vote by mail for everyone and we just sent off our ballots.

Hattie

Rain: I loved vote by mail when I lived in Oregon. I'm not going to be happy if Romney wins this election!

Rain Trueax

It's going to be very depressing for sure if he wins :( I don't know what Americans are thinking that this is even close

Hattie

Rain: It's not close here in Hawaii, but we are, on average, more liberal than most places in the U.S.

Rain Trueax

Oregon is also Obama's as well as the west coast (left coast according to some). Romney has the south and some of the Midwest. but what is going on with New Hampshire???

Hattie

White flight, maybe? Just speculating.

Brandon

Romney has the south and some of the Midwest. but what is going on with New Hampshire???

Posted by: Rain Trueax | October 22, 2012 at 12:52 PM

White flight, maybe? Just speculating.

Posted by: Hattie | October 22, 2012 at 02:22 PM
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Is New Hampshire going more for Obama or Romney?

Hattie

And maybe a bad economy?

Henry Hank Chapin

Hattie--Lately, I've thought a lot about how liberal Hawaii is. My conclusion is we are LIBERAL but not PROGESSIVE, a distinction with a difference in my mind. For example, very conservative retired military will often have mixed race families and no problems with blacks in their thinking. That's liberal. However, the super ferry got soundly defeated. That's UNPROGESSIVE. I guess it's all a matter of opinion, but an island state without a boat system seems very odd to me.

Hattie

Things like ferry boat service need to be properly handled. Superferry was a boondoggle and we didn't get the service after all that money spent. Totally Lingle's fault.

Henry Hank Chapin

That's what I'm saying, although we disagree. People in Hawaii don't want any building or progress at all. Lapses in the process are used as an excuse and people are happy to do so. H-3, rail, the super ferry, Kakaako development, UH-West Oahu---all have met opposition. The very fact of Statehood is now being reinterpreted by some as a big mistake. God forbid you should find a buried body if you're building a house: you'll be set back 2 or 3 years before being able to continue.

I think my distinction stands. We in Hawaii are liberal but not progessive. As my favorite modern poet, e. e. cummings, wrote "progress is a comfortable disease...." It's a basically Romantic take on nature that prevails. Hawaiian culture is Romantic at bottom. I'm not gung ho for progress defined as massive building development, but a ferry would seem to be obviously a benefit. Seattle anyone? And I would like a train in Honolulu for the future, but I'm not holding my breath.

Hattie

There is so little left on Oahu though. And it's unique.

Brandon

I don't understand Rain Treaux's question. Is she saying that state is leaning toward Obama or Romney? And by "white flight", do you mean that whites are leaving New Hampshire en masse?

(Did you get the article I e-mailed?)

Hattie

Brandon: I've been bad about checking my e-mail. I'll take a look at it. I mean nh is the kind of place urban whites move to to find what they imagine to be a simpler way of life only to confront unemployment and other hardships which they might blame on Obama and the Democrats. Just a guess. Of course places like that also have a lot of home grown poverty too. A bad economy could really damage Obama in a place like that without a large urban population. Just speculating. I'm going to look some of this stuff up.

Hattie

Latest polls show turnaround on nh with 8 pt lead for obama. Only 4 electoral votes but significant.

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