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December 28, 2016

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Brandon

Beyoncé is tremendously overrated, especially in her Lemonade days.
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I've never been into Star Wars. But Carrie Fisher seemed like a nice, funny person.

Hattie

Brandon: I'm sure she was, and of course her trials and tribulations were similar to those of less well known women.

Brandon

Is this the Rihanna video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL1UzIK-flA

Silver Willow

You know, just because a famous person meant nothing to you, you shouldn't put down others to whom the loss is meaningful. Yes, it's your blog, and you can type what you want. Similarly, others can react.

Ingineer66

I think I agree with you. Why do "we" care so much about these people. I enjoy movies or music or art as much as the next guy, but I don't really give a rip what they do in their personal lives. Or what they think about politics or any other cause for that matter. As for it being big news when they die, many of them engage in behavior that hastens death. Not always but often. Except Keith Richards, he is going to live forever.

Hattie

Silver Willow: The other day, over on the Kona side, a woman in her 30s was run down and killed by a careless driver. Who weeps for her? Why do we invest so much of our feeling in the lives of people who are basically entertainers and other kinds of celebrities? I've had this argument before, by the way. Not expressing proper sadness over certain events is always seen as being hard hearted, so I am sorry if you were offended. It's sad when anyone dies before they get to live out their threescore and ten. I'm assuming you are referring to Carrie Fisher. Of course her material was her life, so it's not possible to detach one from the other in a case like hers, and she did rope people in emotionally, but drugs, addiction, manic depression and a wild sex life and tons of publicity are so not me.
One celebrity death that really got to me was Princess Diana's. The way she was set up and her early death were awful. Just a long-legged brood mare for the royal family! So I am indicting myself here, too. But I never really emphasized with her. She was in way over her head with those royals.
Ingineer: Keith Richards is like an old lizard. And he's younger than me! He probably survives by feeding on the blood of young virgins.
I can assert from first hand experience that being old is no picnic once the bod starts falling apart in earnest, but it sure beats being dead!
Oh, and some people have no sense of humor. The way my friends and I joke about death would really worry younger people. At least, being an atheist, I know I will be spared eternal life in hell, or heaven for that matter.

Brandon

"I looked at some of Beyonce and Rianna's expensive overproduced videos"

I guess you're referring to Beyoncé's "Formation" video and Rihanna's "Work" video (see above link).

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Princess Diana wasn't my favorite royal. That would be Prince Charles. I don't know whether they were in love, but Charles probably found Diana too glitzy.

Hattie

Brandon: We could endlessly speculate.

Brandon

I think Camilla was Charles's true love.

Hattie

You're a softy! (-:

Hattie

I should mention that I am a sucker for Hollywood expose-type biographies! Oh, and now I read that Debbie Reynolds died. Dear oh dear. That really is sad.

MaryAnn

What I find odd is all of the articles praising George Michael when he hasn't been in the news in a while. The active celebrities develop a following and so I expect the publicity but it does seem to go on forever with some of the stars. I agreed with your blog but each of us may have our favorites. Sad about Debbie Reynolds

Hattie

These celebrities do help us understand ourselves. I just don't get the eulogizing.

Wisewebwoman

I hear you. Though I did feel bad for Debbie dying after her daughter leaving the grandaughter and son. I believed in Debbie and her Tammy Days. My uncle had a. Cinema and I could overdose. Free. Dawg knows what it did to my brain and expectations.

I was still waiting for my inner cynic then.

I do believe we grieve our own youths with these deaths.

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janinsanfran

Speaking of living and dying: do you know these people?

'Hilo Peace Vigil leaflet (Dec. 30, 2016 797th week) – Friday 3:30-5PM downtown Post Office'

Looks like they've been active in your town forever -- seems I knew at least one in the '70s.

Just curious.

I'm largely celebrity proof -- don't consume media (except sports) in which they flourish.

Hattie

Jan: I see them if I go by the Federal Bldg. on Friday. I did pay more attention to them once upon a time. For some reason they don't interest me.
I wish I could completely quell my interest in pop culture. Sports are easy, because they bore me to tears, but Hollywood excess just fascinates me.
I even snuck a peek at a vid of Oprah interviewing Carrie Fisher; she was being amusing and insightful about celebrity and how celebrities inevitably fade away, but Oprah intervened to ask her how she was enjoying her new gig with Jenny Craig! So I realized that it was all hype. I really have no excuse for claiming that I've been had if I insist on being lured in by this tripe.

Ingineer66

Sounds like the Hilo Peace Vigil group is a bunch of rookies. Here in my town there is a group that regularly assembles on Main Street that has been out there since the Vietnam War. Of course they did get reinvigorated while W. Was in office. Dropped back to just a couple of folks with Obama's wars.

Hattie

Ingineer: Our peace folks have been there for at least ten years and maybe longer. The problem is that no one really believes in peace and most people just love them some military. So it's an exercise in futility.

Brandon

@Jan: So you look at Malu Aina's website. Jim Albertini, et al. have been holding peace vigils at the Downtown Post Office every Friday since the week of 11 September 2001. But they've been active long before then. He was even arrested in 1984 for jumping into Hilo Harbor while trying to stop a Navy ship. (I have to find the details.)

Hattie

Brandon: Makes me think I should at least go down and say hi to them.

janinsanfran

Yes -- I encountered Jim Albertini in several peace efforts in '79 or early '80s, probably in the Northwest. Noticed that their vigil is as longstanding as one we have in SF at the old federal building since 9/11. Though I know the people, I have not gone by there for some time. I admire tenacity however.

Joared

We periodically have peace vigils at one of the main cross streets in our town with one street being old Route 66, Foothill Blvd. Most often most of the individuals come from one of our retirement communities, Pilgrim Place -- retired missionaries, individuals who've engaged in social work, public service. This is within a block of the Claremont Colleges. Years ago the area Nazi leader, later shot and killed by his young son, held a rally there that drew mostly protestors who avoided being sucked into committing violent behavior. College students didn't get seduced into all of it either.

Hattie

Joared: My cousin's daughterlives right close to there. She's in town, so maybe I can ask her about it. It appears that there are a lot of these vigils.

Joared

Meant to add comment re the celebrity worship I've often written none to favorably about. I fail to understand the obsession so many have. I never had it even as a teenager. I've met some individuals considered celebs in years past whether entertainment, or other, and all I can say is, they pull their pants on one leg at a time like all the rest of us and have personal lives no more or less significant than other people. I do think the celebrity obsession, just as brand name obsession, has increased greatly and has disgustingly become much more pervasive in young children the past fifty years.

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